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NOSCALING: No Frequency Scaling. Fixes the iPod crash bug, but at the cost of ignoring the problem.mikeage: Including the SNCViewer patch (7432) and the iPod scroll acceleration patch (7738)PLAYLIST: My patches (playlist order, tagcache enabled playlist viewer and no scaling)COP: kernel_on_cop_8 patch from the coprocessor support thread.COP10: kernel_on_cop_10 patch from the coprocessor support thread.COP11: kernel_on_cop_11 patch from the coprocessor support thread.
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י"ט שבט תשס"ז - February 6, 2007 at 7:56 pm
Would the noscale build cause problems with large transfers? I have recently switched to the cop build, but was curious why i was having troubles transferring large transfers before. Thanks for your help!
י"ט שבט תשס"ז - February 6, 2007 at 8:14 pm
I can't think of any, but I hope that the kernel_on_cop patch helps you.
כ' שבט תשס"ז - February 7, 2007 at 4:32 am
I used the cop build and I'm guessing I don't have a recent enough version of the rockbox bootloader because when I play a song, it never starts. It just stays on 0:00. I hope that's not the case because any version later than the one I have doesn't boot apple's firmware.
כ' שבט תשס"ז - February 7, 2007 at 5:53 am
Grrrr.
Thanks anyway for the feedback; I have the exact same issue you do; see a similar complaint here and my issues here.
כ' שבט תשס"ז - February 7, 2007 at 7:48 am
Ha nice. Well, I've subscribed to those threads and will continue to come back to your website for the latest info and great builds. Keep up the good work!
כ' שבט תשס"ז - February 7, 2007 at 4:22 pm
See task 6629 for work to fix the bootloader
כ"ו שבט תשס"ז - February 13, 2007 at 4:33 am
Thanks for the builds Mikeage. The noscaling version fixes the problem of playback always freezing after awhile on my 4G iPod Photo. The cop version seems to hang when booting though.
It's really hard to find out what's fixed and what isn't from the builds on the rockbox site. Is there any reasons why the current iPod build on the rockbox site doesn't have any of these fixes applied? Seems weird that the only versions for the iPod there don't actually play songs properly! I almost gave up on the whole thing until I heard about the 'unsupported builds'
I still have intermittent problems with the database playback saying 'database not ready' most probably after PC->iPod access, and also some weirdness when plugging the iPod into the power - it seems to cycle through the boot process (usually need to boot to iPod firmware 1st to allow it to charge)
כ"ו שבט תשס"ז - February 13, 2007 at 4:57 am
Regarding the COP version: when you say hang, do you mean that it doesn't boot? Or does it boot, but you can't play anything. Which bootloader are you using?
The noscaling will never be applied to an official release, since it's not really a fix (it removes a feature under development). Kernel_on_COP will probably be committed (in one form or another) one day, hopefully soon.
Bear in mind that no formal iPod release has been made yet; rockbox is still very archos-/iriver-centric, and iPod support is still rather experimental.
כ"ז שבט תשס"ז - February 14, 2007 at 12:48 am
Thanks Mike, the COP version just doesn't boot for me. It hangs when 'Loading rockbox.ipod'. This is with the bootloader from the rockbox site from a few days ago.
I haven't tried your bootloader coz I wanted to boot directly to rockbox all the time, but might investigate that soon. The NoScaling one is ok though.
Is there more information on what's under development etc that just the patch discussions and forums? I may have to start looking into some of the development stuff.
Is anyone actively looking at the batter life issues at the moment that you know about, or is this likely to be a by-product of getting the CoProcessor to run separate threads to release the burden so much on the main processor, and therefore an extension of the Kernel_on_COP extension?
כ"ז שבט תשס"ז - February 14, 2007 at 12:53 am
Hrmm… dunno what to tell you about the boot. Speak to linuxstb (Dave Chapman) on the Rockbox forums; he's the expert on those issues.
Besides the flyspray and forums, there's also IRC. I usually limit myself to the trackers, however, for main issues.
I don't think anyone's working on battery life at the moment, though; hopefully soon!
כ"ז שבט תשס"ז - February 14, 2007 at 2:32 am
I love your builds and have been using them since September on my 60 gb photo. The COP build from 20070213 sucessfully loads for me (no problems there) and seems to load great. The Interface is much smoother than previous builds (previous build was 200701014). The only problem is that it won't play any audio files. It looks like it is going to play but I get nothing. This occurs will all audio files including, .ogg, .flac, and lame encoded .mp3.
The no scaling build (from 20070213) still works wonderfully (as usual). Keep up the good work! Thanks!
כ"ז שבט תשס"ז - February 14, 2007 at 6:05 am
Nathan:
What bootloader are you using? The symptoms you're describing sound very much like the wrong bootloader (either the old rockbox loader, or 2.4 of the iPL loader)
כ"ח שבט תשס"ז - February 15, 2007 at 7:40 am
Hi Mike!
I have been wanting to say thank you for your hard work and effort on updating the Rockbox for "4G No scaling". I can't recall what version it was but it was maybe from a couple months ago. My iPod never ever crashed at all. I have been very happy with it….thnx again!!!
כ"ח שבט תשס"ז - February 15, 2007 at 9:05 am
Thanks Oliver! It's not really hard work, since I have a script that compiles them daily, but I'm glad to hear that you're enjoying the build. If you really want to thank someone, send an email or post a comment to all of the hardworking developers at rockbox.
Enjoy!
ל' שבט תשס"ז - February 17, 2007 at 10:53 pm
Flyspray shows a guy who mentions where the problem started, but I have no idea to fix it. Have you heard anything more?
א' אדר תשס"ז - February 18, 2007 at 4:54 am
I'm afraid not, although the Loader 2.5d6 also works.
א' אדר תשס"ז - February 18, 2007 at 7:51 pm
Have you noticed a big difference in performance with the cop build?
א' אדר תשס"ז - February 18, 2007 at 10:44 pm
I haven't noticed performance, but the COP10 build has been stable for me for about 6 hours now (not on one charge), which is better than any of the other co-processor support patches.
ב' אדר תשס"ז - February 19, 2007 at 8:13 pm
The COP10 build seems to be much more stable than the other patches (slightly more so than the previous COP build), but I have still had 2 lockups (albeit after many hours of playback). This is much better than the unpatched 15 minutes or so. I am using a 4g Color (photo). Many thanks for these automatic builds.
ב' אדר תשס"ז - February 19, 2007 at 10:07 pm
Sorry for the delay in my response. I updated to the newest standard rockbox bootloader; Using COP10 (which is pretty quick for me) I had two lockups within 20 minutes so I went back to the older COP build, which seems to work fine. Thanks for all of your work. I will continue to test and leave feedback here.
ג' אדר תשס"ז - February 20, 2007 at 5:19 am
Just a reminder: it may be worthwhile to leave feedback on the co-processor tracker thread, since that's where the actual development is taking place.
OTOH, perhaps they won't trust my builds
ה' אדר תשס"ז - February 22, 2007 at 7:49 am
hey great build, however i got a couple of problems that quite possibly may just be me
im using ur playlist build from yesterday for the 4g grayscale.
1. the long hold on WPS menu has ~8 "sound settings" showing only one of witch actually works
2. also, the bootloader included to change the menu function is in .ipod mode. it needs to be in .bin!?
can i just change the extension or….
thanks john!
ה' אדר תשס"ז - February 22, 2007 at 9:06 am
I'll check the sound settings menu.
Regarding the bootloader, the .bin and .ipod formats are totally different. Read the installation pages at the rockbox wiki (both the new and old methods) to see more.
ה' אדר תשס"ז - February 22, 2007 at 10:21 am
well thats the problem.
http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IpodInstallation
is the page for the old way to install using the .bin bootloader
http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IpodInstallationBeta
is the new way to install with .ipod bootloaders.
i cant get my g4 grayscale to install the new way so following advice on the new install page
"NOTE: These instructions are known to have problems with the 1st and 2nd Generation Mini and 4G (Greyscale) ipods…… If you have one of these ipods, you should continue using the old installation instructions at the IpodPort page."
i use the old install method!
any suggestions on how to convert between formats?
ה' אדר תשס"ז - February 22, 2007 at 12:31 pm
You can't just convert… it needs to be compiled in the old format.
י' אדר תשס"ז - February 27, 2007 at 3:11 am
Ok, Mike.. I've just tried the latest COP build again for the 4G Photo, and it loads ok, but I still suffer the iPod hanging during play. The problem seems reasonably consistent, and possibly takes longer between lockups, although I suspect that is may just be when the processor is call on to do something specific…. (I managed to get it to lock up at the same point within one song)
The no-scaling version still seems a whole lot more stable, and there seems to be less lag when changing menus and scrolling than with the COP build.
I'll start paying attention to the forums now too.
Thanks again.
י' אדר תשס"ז - February 27, 2007 at 4:45 am
Paul:
If you have a reproducible error location for a song, you should post your build information along with the patch, bootloader, ipod version, etc at Tracker 5755 which is where the COP patches are being developed. You should mention that you have been able to reproduce the crash with a particular song in the same location–to the best of my knowledge, the crashes have thus far been inconsistent and difficult to reproduce, hence the trouble fixing the bug. Feedback is good!
[Edited by siteowner: link closed]
י"ב אדר תשס"ז - March 1, 2007 at 5:18 am
Any chance of getting an automated build with the CoCop11 patch? If so, much appreciated.
י"ב אדר תשס"ז - March 1, 2007 at 5:56 am
Done (will be ready in Today's builds; around 0730 GMT).
I've stopped making the cop8 and cop10 builds, though.
י"ד אדר תשס"ז - March 3, 2007 at 2:43 am
Mikeage,
You are my savior with your builds, my man! I posted on the rockbox forums of your wonderfulness, and I come directly here for all of my Rockbox needs. I tried the cop11 build above, and as soon as I attempt to play any MP3, I get a "Data Abort at 0028×7" (or some hex code). It navigates fine everywhere else, but I cannot play anything. I'm working with an iPod Color. Any thoughts? (I am using the noscaling as I did before, and it works flawlessly). Keep up the fantastic work!
י"ד אדר תשס"ז - March 3, 2007 at 2:26 pm
Hello
As John said, the "apple-first" bootloader is not usuable on 4G greyscale. Is it possible that you compile them in order to make a .bin rather than a .ipod ? (i.e., the old way ?).
Thanks for your builds : simples, and have everything I need !
י"ד אדר תשס"ז - March 3, 2007 at 9:19 pm
GhostDragon: does it happen on a particular song, or on all songs? Which date's cop build were you using?
Nerbrume: I'll try and do so in the next few days; my linux server is not responding to SSH though, for some reason, and I'm not at home to check it, so it may be a little while
י"ד אדר תשס"ז - March 3, 2007 at 10:22 pm
Mikeage:
I tried four different MP3s, three songs and a podcast; all of them gave me the error. I tried both the 3/1/07 and 3/2/07 cop builds, and it happened with both.
ט"ו אדר תשס"ז - March 4, 2007 at 1:00 pm
Please try today's cop11 build. I think there may have been a problem with the automated build process over the last few days. Thanks
ט"ז אדר תשס"ז - March 5, 2007 at 6:00 am
Mikeage:
I just tried the 3/4/07 cop11 build…no good, man; same result. I can surf around fine (the scroll wheel is noticeably more sluggish) and change settings and whatnot, but immediately when I play any file, it goes to start playback and then Data abort at 0002F9A0.
ט"ז אדר תשס"ז - March 5, 2007 at 6:02 am
Hrmm… sorry to hear that.
In any case, COP11 has been committed to SVN (as of rvn 12601). Therefore, I'll no longer be making those builds.
In fact, I'm going to suspend all builds for a little while… if I still see a need in a few days, I'll resume.
ט"ז אדר תשס"ז - March 5, 2007 at 7:22 am
sorry to ask a stupid question, but what does "COP11 has been committed to SVN (as of rvn 12601)" mean?.. and how does that result in you not making those builds? a friend showed me your page many months ago, and i have not been following the rockbox builds since….i was using your no scaling, and today decided to check out your page…so i tried the cop11…and got the same error as ghost dragon…now you say you are not making anymore builds…should i just use the latest version of no-scaling?
Thanks
י"ט אדר תשס"ז - March 8, 2007 at 3:16 pm
I noticed there is no support (yet) for 3g models? Or can i use one of the 4g versions?
Thanks, Ray.
כ' אדר תשס"ז - March 9, 2007 at 10:28 am
3g and 4g are incompatible. Sorry
י' ניסן תשס"ז - March 28, 2007 at 12:58 am
Have you perminantly stopped making your custom builds??? I thought maybe the scaling issue had been fixed in the normal builds of rockbox, but I loaded up the latest one last night on my ipod color, and it already froze up on me today while I was working out.
י' ניסן תשס"ז - March 28, 2007 at 6:53 am
Ryan,
I've stopped for a while, since my experience has been that the cop11 patch, which was committed a few weeks ago, appears to have stabilized my 4g grayscale. I'll try and start making noscaling builds again today.
י' ניסן תשס"ז - March 28, 2007 at 10:37 am
Hi Mike
Fantastic work - thank you very much. I just got my 30Gb Color Photo working and it has now been running for an hour with no hangs!
I had problems with your builds to start with and then retried by removing the .rockbox directory completely - all themes and database (except the font directory). I used your rockbox.ipod, rebooted, rebuilt the database, rebooted and left the default theme.
I am wondering if the problems people have been having above are to do with incompatible themes.
Thanks
Chris
י' ניסן תשס"ז - March 28, 2007 at 10:39 am
forgot to say that I was using the latest noscaling build.
I probably won't have the chance now to check out the other builds as my wife wants her iPod back now she has seen it working!
י"א ניסן תשס"ז - March 29, 2007 at 12:08 am
Thanks for trying to start up the builds again man. I truly appreciate it.
Do you have any idea why when I revert back from yesterdays daily build to your 3-08 no-scaling build I'm getting codec failures???
י"א ניסן תשס"ז - March 29, 2007 at 7:05 am
Haven't a clue. Try today's build.
ט"ו ניסן תשס"ז - April 2, 2007 at 1:30 am
Mike, I know you had issues with the bootloader and the cop builds..I've since been on the old bootloader to allow for apple boots..Has this been fixed? I don't want to go through the trouble of switching bootloaders if it hasn't. Also, how have the cop builds been treating you?
Again, thanks for your builds! (even if you don't think it's hard, it's helping many!)
ט"ו ניסן תשס"ז - April 2, 2007 at 6:35 am
Shane,
The latest bootloader (v1.0 - part of ipodpatcher v0.9) boots both Apple and rockbox without any problems. I've also found that the recent builds are pretty stable; occasionally, I'll get either a silent freeze or a freeze to the Apple logo screen. I haven't seen a "data abort" message with the newer builds.
Note that coprocessor support did not help battery life, since right now, everything is still being run on the main core. Work is in progress to actually use the second core.
כ"ב ניסן תשס"ז - April 9, 2007 at 5:31 pm
I tried the latest rockbox build and had a freeze within an hour so I went back to the noscale build as I've never experienced a freeze with it. Thanks for your help! Is there a blog or news site that talks about rockbox builds and the work that is being done on them?
כ"ד ניסן תשס"ז - April 11, 2007 at 8:55 am
Sorry, I just realized that the cron job that makes these builds was disabled!
It's fixed now.
כ"ה ניסן תשס"ז - April 12, 2007 at 11:04 pm
Hello
Every time I try the latest Rockbox build for my iPod Color it freezes within an hour or so. Thanks God there is you to make these builds that, although ignoring the problem, it fixes it.
Question. Do you know why people at Rockbox knowing that their builds are useless, keep on doing it that way and do not adopt a solution similar to yours on their official builds?
If it concerns battery life I prefer to recharge the iPod but be able to use it.
Thanks, CH!
כ"ח ניסן תשס"ז - April 15, 2007 at 1:32 pm
It is done so because:
1) the bug has to be corrected.
2) other platforms works with the same code, AFAIK it is 4G specific
3) no one seems to work currently on this bug, and no one cares because the best workaround is to buy a 5G…
Do not take me wrong. I respect the Rockbox people, but it is a fact that no dev cares anymore about this bug, these days. Some people have tried to figure out months ago what causes the issue, but no one really succeed. Furthermore, it cannot be a summer of code objective since the load of work is absolutely unquantifiable. It is only pure and harsh reverse engineering that is required.
Wait and see or dig by yourself…
כ"ח ניסן תשס"ז - April 15, 2007 at 6:24 pm
Loïc,
I undestand point 2). But 1) and 3) contradict (in real life) with each other. My comment was on the practical side. It is fully understandable that being the ipod color an "old" platform that spendig time solving the problem would be utilizing resources incorrectly. That is why I think that the official build for iPod Color should have this issue solved maybe in a similar way to how it is done here.
On the other side I think that undestanding what causes the problem would be great. It is a pity that (on this life) I am not a software developer
Thanks.
CH!
כ"ט ניסן תשס"ז - April 16, 2007 at 11:37 am
Well, 1) and 3) are not really opposite. Software developers are a limited resource and cannot work on everything. It will probably be corrected for the next stable release because the Ipod ports have become a major platform, much more widespread than the most traditional rockbox ones (Iriver, Archos) with an interested community. Many official Ipod firmwares are buggy to some extent with the legendary stuttering problem. Old ipods lack gapless. Meanwhile, the new shiny and colorful Rockbox themes are becoming quite fashionable and usable, more and more apple-ish.
The ipod port definitely changed Rockbox in a great way. It has mostly began with the 4G port; let's just hope that it will not be forgotten.
כ"ט ניסן תשס"ז - April 16, 2007 at 3:53 pm
Interesting… I've actually found the formal builds lately to be quite stable (assuming one has the latest bootloader).
I happen to really like my 4G; although it's not color, it has USB and Firewire (which makes it a better portable hard disk), and I (fairly recently) picked one up refurbished for $120 for 40GB, which I think is the best value out there for a player.
כ"ט ניסן תשס"ז - April 16, 2007 at 3:55 pm
Weird… the source files aren't being uploaded. In any event, they're fixed now.
ב' אייר תשס"ז - April 19, 2007 at 5:33 am
Thank you for your comments.
Just for the record I am very happy with Rockbox. The only reason I sometimes think on upgrading my player is to get more disk space. 20G (at least for me) is not enough. I started thinking in changing the HD of my unit!
Anyways, my next unit will run on Rockbox.
CH!
ט' אייר תשס"ז - April 26, 2007 at 9:50 pm
Mike,
I read on the Mistic River site someone requested a build providing the use of album art on their 4G iPod Photo. Where can I get that build?
Thanks,
AW
י' אייר תשס"ז - April 27, 2007 at 6:28 am
Maybe ask the person who requested it?
I've never played with album art on a 4G … I didn't know the patch worked for grayscale targets.
י"ז אייר תשס"ז - May 4, 2007 at 1:29 am
Where did you get that refurbished 40Gb for 120$ ?
י"ז אייר תשס"ז - May 4, 2007 at 6:03 am
Apple.com periodically offers good deals on refurbished iPods.
This was about 6 months ago, or so.
י"ט אייר תשס"ז - May 6, 2007 at 6:34 pm
Any idea why my ipod 4g color / photo gets a data abort 2 seconds into any song? I have tried multiple builds and so far 3 have the same issue.
I had an older build ( wish I had backed it up now) that did work w/o problems.
ג' סיון תשס"ז - May 19, 2007 at 4:10 am
Cole - I am having the same problems on my 60 gig color. This is so frustrating. My earlier build had lots of serious problems, and nothing in the last 2 months works at all.
ז' תמוז תשס"ז - June 22, 2007 at 6:53 pm
I'm a bit new to this, but I'd like to get my iPod to boot into Apple firmware first. I tried replacing the rockbox.ipod file in the .rockbox folder with the rockbox-bootloader-ipodcolor.ipod thta I downloaded here. But when I boot it just says no original firmware found. How can I make this work? Thanks
ט' תמוז תשס"ז - June 24, 2007 at 5:45 am
John H,
I've removed the Apple first bootloaders, as they bootloader is now distributed as part of ipodpatcher, and I haven't had a chance to look at the new format yet.
Note that this file was not designed to replace
rockbox.ipodfrom your.rockboxfolder.Sorry I can't be of any help at this time.
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ח' מנחם אב תשס"ז - July 22, 2007 at 8:37 am
I appreciate that you still have your builds. I gave up on Rockbox when the apple firmware was good enough for what I wanted. It is a shame that they have not made more progress on the iPods. I am sorry that you have only one build now but maybe that is all the is needed now. I know that when I had tried Rockbox before I had to use your builds as theres would lock up on me each time. I loaded yours the other night and appreciate the updates. I am just waiting for the one for the 22nd and will use it when it comes out.
כ"ו מנחם אב תשס"ז - August 9, 2007 at 2:46 pm
Hey Mike,
For the last two days, the downloads for the color build have been broken. When clicking to download, it simply refreshes the screen, but doesn't download anything.
Thanks again for putting these builds together. I wouldn't be able to use rockbox without them.
כ"ו מנחם אב תשס"ז - August 9, 2007 at 4:54 pm
See http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=12049.0
I'll fix my side soon. In the meantime, I removed the broken links
כ"ז מנחם אב תשס"ז - August 10, 2007 at 8:53 am
Confirmed fixed
כ"א אלול תשס"ז - September 3, 2007 at 6:56 pm
Thank you very much for the new disclaimer.
I am very excited to gather information on this question.
י"ג תשרי תשס"ח - September 24, 2007 at 4:47 am
Just dropping in to say I was running an official build on my 60 gig ipod photo for two 5-hour car trips this weekend, and not a single freeze. Thanks for the tip to try the official builds again.
י"ט מרחשון תשס"ח - October 30, 2007 at 2:41 pm
These builds have been down for a while, due to some issues on my home server. I hope to continue soon with daily "mikeage" builds, containing the SNC viewer and the scrolling acceleration patch
כ"א מרחשון תשס"ח - November 1, 2007 at 4:45 pm
mikeage builds in progress…