http://mikeage.net/2007/10/20/kinyan-after-nesinah/ mikeage.net Thu, 28 Aug 2008 13:19:18 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6 http://mikeage.net/2007/10/20/kinyan-after-nesinah/#comment-32434 Mike Miller Wed, 24 Oct 2007 23:17:13 +0000 http://mikeage.net/2007/10/20/kinyan-after-nesinah/#comment-32434 Ah, yes. The case I originally described here is the Tur (quoted the Rosh as arguing with the Rambam) as discussed in the previous post. Edited. Ah, yes. The case I originally described here is the Tur (quoted the Rosh as arguing with the Rambam) as discussed in the previous post. Edited.

]]> http://mikeage.net/2007/10/20/kinyan-after-nesinah/#comment-32430 Rav Tue, 23 Oct 2007 22:12:18 +0000 http://mikeage.net/2007/10/20/kinyan-after-nesinah/#comment-32430 The Tur you quoted was discussing a potential transfer of ownership of the item itself that was given for safekeeping. Reuven asks Shimon to watch his chess set and it is placed on the shelf in Shimon's closet. Shimon then shows an interest in purchasing the chess set and Reuven sets a price and the deal is closed. Shimon pays the money. Does Shimon need a kinyan hagboho or can he use kinyan chatzer since the item is in his closet? The Tur rules that he must make a kinyan hagboho. The Tur you quoted was discussing a potential transfer of ownership of the item itself that was given for safekeeping. Reuven asks Shimon to watch his chess set and it is placed on the shelf in Shimon's closet. Shimon then shows an interest in purchasing the chess set and Reuven sets a price and the deal is closed. Shimon pays the money. Does Shimon need a kinyan hagboho or can he use kinyan chatzer since the item is in his closet? The Tur rules that he must make a kinyan hagboho.

]]> http://mikeage.net/2007/10/20/kinyan-after-nesinah/#comment-32429 Mike Miller Sun, 21 Oct 2007 21:01:03 +0000 http://mikeage.net/2007/10/20/kinyan-after-nesinah/#comment-32429 It appears that my first question may be dealt with in both the notes (ר' רפאלי, IIRC) at the end of the נמיבות, as well as by R' Scheinberg's טבעת החושן. However, I didn't really follow what the Rav showed me; I have to return to this. It appears that my first question may be dealt with in both the notes (ר' רפאלי, IIRC) at the end of the נמיבות, as well as by R' Scheinberg's טבעת החושן. However, I didn't really follow what the Rav showed me; I have to return to this.

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